Poking at ROA

+1 to Tim Ewald’s point that the ROA crowd might be pressing too hard to make PUT do some uncomfortable things. -1 (with all due respect) to Stefan Tilkov’s assertion that “anytime you find yourself adding words like “operation” to your representation, you’ve violated one of the core RESTful HTTP principles, which is that the intent should be communicated using the HTTP verb.” IMO, that’s an unfair litmus test for ROAishness.

Stefan was chiding a specific situation with respect to GData, which I do not know much about. But I do know that situations exist where I want to convey multiple “intentions” in a single physical call. You should be able to update a customer and a supplier in the same message -- to support arbitrary composition of the intent. What's the URI for that? That’s a rhetorical question, because a POSTing location and a schema indicating the message format are all you need.

I’m a big fan of ROA, but I’m worried that ROA fundamentalism will create a quagmire (shared by SOA) where all advice seems to be about what *not* to do. ROA makes it easy to bind the HTTP verb with your intent, but it doesn’t require you to do so. If I define a format for a message that can contain multiple “intentions” and then expose POST endpoint for processing messages, have I broken some Law of ROA? I don’t think so.

Or, like Tim asks, does ROA mean I have to PUT things in an imaginary basket and then PUT an imaginary thing into an imaginary place to make the basket get processed? No. There is no crime in using The Uniform Interface in a way that partners the payload, verb, and URI to dispatching logic or help give you a cleaner programming model.

Sure, it’s best to keep business process protocol stuff out of the data in your payload, which is what I think Stefan was really alluding to. That obviously gives you the ability to reuse a message format by isolating intention to the URI. But resources often have internal processes, like special state transitions, which may need to be manipulated via flags in the payload.

The free market rightly determined that WS-* is often too difficult to use and it probably doesn’t solve the problems you think it will. But if ROA forces people to use more effort or do unnatural acts to get a day’s work done, ROA will be out on its ass as well. In both cases, the good goes down with the bad.